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[240]

that little guy right there, anyone want to help me know what it is?

[Aug]

it's a MIDI keyboard controller...but, I have no idea the make/model though...

[240]

i dont really know anything about synths/keyboards or anything

this band is these arms are snakes, ive seen em twice and i really like the synth sounds, the bassist (who also plays this) had like a wah and a big muff and some other stuff but im not sure how everythings set up

[Aug]

well then...your next course of action should be:

Ask them.

As for the big muffs and wahs...there are always threads here about those...look around...

and welcome to the boards.

[240]

thanks for the welcome, but this is my third username, id tell you what the old ones were but i have no idea, so im not exactly new

taas wont be back till january and its a big show with the blood brothers so i doubt itll be as easy to meet them as it would have been before

maybe ill just ask online

[Doog]

It's a MicroKorg.

[ekwatts]

That is indeed a MicroKORG, but the keyboard off to the corner on the right looks like an analogue 70's/80's synth too, so it might be worth getting a decent picture of that keyboard too.

MicroKORGs are fantastic though.

[ekwatts]

Actually, that black keyboard *might* be a Roland of some sort, possibly an RS, but there are plenty of old analogue synths knocking about that look kind of like that.

[Sloan]

Dude, how's the microKorg doing ya?
I'm thinking about maybe tyring one out, but I'm not very knowledgeable with synths. I've been using Reason presets and tweaking them to get sounds, but the mKorg seems cool. I dunno what the hell vocoding is though. ha!

[Sloan]

4-note polyphony. #### THAT.

[ekwatts]

Alot of classic synths only have a very limited polyphony. You're not going to be playing Moonlight Sonata, so the 4 note polyphony isn't a problem.

As far as not being knowledgable about synths, that's the beauty of the MicroKORG, you really don't need to be. For sound editing, there's a program you can download and use on your PC, or you could just do it with the interface on the keyboard itself. It's not as complicated as some reviews make out, especially if you've ever messed with a digital effects pedal.

[matte30is]

indie-ana jones-ing.

[JebuSPaul]

[quote name="ekwatts"]Alot of classic synths only have a very limited polyphony. You're not going to be playing Moonlight Sonata, so the 4 note polyphony isn't a problem.

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I hate to be a music student ####, but the moonlight sonata is based on the Bach's prelude model, and as such only has three notes playing at any given time. I actually haven't seen a score though, so I may be wrong. Jesus but I'll feel a dick if I'm wrong.

[ekwatts]

Alot of classic synths only have a very limited polyphony. You're not going to be playing Moonlight Sonata, so the 4 note polyphony isn't a problem.

quote]

I hate to be a music student ####, but the moonlight sonata is based on the Bach's prelude model, and as such only has three notes playing at any given time. I actually haven't seen a score though, so I may be wrong. Jesus but I'll feel a dick if I'm wrong.

People generally refer to the entire 11+ minute piece as the Moonlight Sonata, rather than the starting 6 minutes that everyone knows. It gets reasonably complicated after that section, as I recall. You're probably right though, but all I was trying to stress is that the level of piano-like expressiveness you'd require for Bach or other classical pieces isn't to be found on the MicroKORG.

[JebuSPaul]

Alot of classic synths only have a very limited polyphony. You're not going to be playing Moonlight Sonata, so the 4 note polyphony isn't a problem.

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I hate to be a music student ####, but the moonlight sonata is based on the Bach's prelude model, and as such only has three notes playing at any given time. I actually haven't seen a score though, so I may be wrong. Jesus but I'll feel a dick if I'm wrong.

People generally refer to the entire 11+ minute piece as the Moonlight Sonata, rather than the starting 6 minutes that everyone knows. It gets reasonably complicated after that section, as I recall. You're probably right though, but all I was trying to stress is that the level of piano-like expressiveness you'd require for Bach or other classical pieces isn't to be found on the MicroKORG.

The moonlight sonata was just one section from a symphony or a concerto of Beethoven's, I can't remember. To try and say when the moonlight sonata begins or ends is a futile exercise. I don't think it was ever known as the moonlight sonata in Beethoven's life, but I may be wrong. As for Bach, his music was decidedly technical, and the bulk of was written when the piano was in it's infancy, and hadn't such expressive tools as the sustaining pedal, so it could probably be played satisfactorily on a keyboard.

You're making me come across really badly here EK. I look like a proper tosser.

[JebuSPaul]

Alot of classic synths only have a very limited polyphony. You're not going to be playing Moonlight Sonata, so the 4 note polyphony isn't a problem.

quote]

I hate to be a music student ####, but the moonlight sonata is based on the Bach's prelude model, and as such only has three notes playing at any given time. I actually haven't seen a score though, so I may be wrong. Jesus but I'll feel a dick if I'm wrong.

People generally refer to the entire 11+ minute piece as the Moonlight Sonata, rather than the starting 6 minutes that everyone knows. It gets reasonably complicated after that section, as I recall. You're probably right though, but all I was trying to stress is that the level of piano-like expressiveness you'd require for Bach or other classical pieces isn't to be found on the MicroKORG.

The moonlight sonata was just one section from a symphony or a concerto of Beethoven's, I can't remember. To try and say when the moonlight sonata begins or ends is a futile exercise. I don't think it was ever known as the moonlight sonata in Beethoven's life, but I may be wrong. As for Bach, his music was decidedly technical, and the bulk of was written when the piano was in it's infancy, and hadn't such expressive tools as the sustaining pedal, so it could probably be played satisfactorily on a keyboard.

You're making me come across really badly here EK. I look like a proper tosser.

[Aug]

this from Wikipedia:

Ludwig van Beethoven's opus 27 no. 2 is the Piano Sonata No. 14 in C sharp minor "Quasi una fantasia" (Italian: Like (similar to) a fantasy), popularly known as the Moonlight Sonata.
Beethoven wrote this sonata in 1801 and dedicated it to his pupil, the 17-year-old Countess Giulietta Guicciardi, with whom he was (or, according to some accounts, had been) in love. In 1832, several years after Beethoven's death, the poet Ludwig Rellstab compared the music to moonlight shining on Lake Lucerne. Since then, it has been known as the Moonlight Sonata.
The Moonlight Sonata is one of Beethoven's most popular works, and it is frequently performed and recorded.

[Aug]

The sonata has three movements:
Adagio sostenuto
Allegretto
Presto agitato
The first movement is written in a kind of truncated sonata form. A melody that Hector Berlioz called a "lamentation" is played (mostly by the right hand) against an accompanying ostinato triplet rhythm. The movement has made a powerful impression on many listeners; for instance, Berlioz wrote that it "is one of those poems that human language does not know how to qualify." The work was very popular in Beethoven's day, to the point of exasperating the composer, who wrote "Surely I've written better things."
The second movement is a relatively conventional minuet and trio; a moment of relative calm written in D-flat major. This key signature is enharmonically equivalent to C-sharp major, that is, the tonic major for the work as a whole. The slightly odd sound of the first eight bars seems to be the result of the minuet starting in the "wrong" key; i.e. the dominant key of A-flat major. The music settles into D-flat only in the second phrase, bars 5-8.
The stormy final movement, in sonata form, is the weightiest of the three, reflecting an experiment of Beethoven's (also carried out in the companion sonata, Opus 27 no. 1 and later on in Opus 101) of placing the most important movement of a sonata last. The writing has many fast arpeggios and strongly accented notes, and an effective performance demands flamboyant and skillful playing. Beethoven was known to break hammers and strings when he played, and it is easy to imagine this happening when he performed this movement.
Of the final movement, Charles Rosen has written "[it is] the most unbridled in its representation of emotion. Even today, two hundred years later, its ferocity is astonishing."
The musical dynamic that predominates in the third movement is in fact piano. It seems that Beethoven's heavy use of sforzando notes, together with just a few strategically located fortissimo passages, creates the sense of a very powerful sound in spite of the overall dynamic

[JebuSPaul]

The sonata has three movements:
Adagio sostenuto
Allegretto
Presto agitato
The first movement is written in a kind of truncated sonata form. A melody that Hector Berlioz called a "lamentation" is played (mostly by the right hand) against an accompanying ostinato triplet rhythm. The movement has made a powerful impression on many listeners; for instance, Berlioz wrote that it "is one of those poems that human language does not know how to qualify." The work was very popular in Beethoven's day, to the point of exasperating the composer, who wrote "Surely I've written better things."
The second movement is a relatively conventional minuet and trio; a moment of relative calm written in D-flat major. This key signature is enharmonically equivalent to C-sharp major, that is, the tonic major for the work as a whole. The slightly odd sound of the first eight bars seems to be the result of the minuet starting in the "wrong" key; i.e. the dominant key of A-flat major. The music settles into D-flat only in the second phrase, bars 5-8.
The stormy final movement, in sonata form, is the weightiest of the three, reflecting an experiment of Beethoven's (also carried out in the companion sonata, Opus 27 no. 1 and later on in Opus 101) of placing the most important movement of a sonata last. The writing has many fast arpeggios and strongly accented notes, and an effective performance demands flamboyant and skillful playing. Beethoven was known to break hammers and strings when he played, and it is easy to imagine this happening when he performed this movement.
Of the final movement, Charles Rosen has written "[it is] the most unbridled in its representation of emotion. Even today, two hundred years later, its ferocity is astonishing."
The musical dynamic that predominates in the third movement is in fact piano. It seems that Beethoven's heavy use of sforzando notes, together with just a few strategically located fortissimo passages, creates the sense of a very powerful sound in spite of the overall dynamic

Indeed.

[ekwatts]

Alot of classic synths only have a very limited polyphony. You're not going to be playing Moonlight Sonata, so the 4 note polyphony isn't a problem.

quote]

I hate to be a music student ####, but the moonlight sonata is based on the Bach's prelude model, and as such only has three notes playing at any given time. I actually haven't seen a score though, so I may be wrong. Jesus but I'll feel a dick if I'm wrong.

People generally refer to the entire 11+ minute piece as the Moonlight Sonata, rather than the starting 6 minutes that everyone knows. It gets reasonably complicated after that section, as I recall. You're probably right though, but all I was trying to stress is that the level of piano-like expressiveness you'd require for Bach or other classical pieces isn't to be found on the MicroKORG.

The moonlight sonata was just one section from a symphony or a concerto of Beethoven's, I can't remember. To try and say when the moonlight sonata begins or ends is a futile exercise. I don't think it was ever known as the moonlight sonata in Beethoven's life, but I may be wrong. As for Bach, his music was decidedly technical, and the bulk of was written when the piano was in it's infancy, and hadn't such expressive tools as the sustaining pedal, so it could probably be played satisfactorily on a keyboard.

You're making me come across really badly here EK. I look like a proper tosser.

Haha, you're right, but even without a sustain pedal, the MicroKORG simply isn't expressive enough for a decent recreation of a piano sound. It isn't designed for it, and it basically won't do it, unless you want to start getting into allegro and fortissimo and other music stuff I don't understand on a B5 organ sample set. I'm also aware that the name Moonlight Sonata doesn't refer to the entire peice, but people use it as such anyway.