Difference between a Jaguar and a Jaguar 'Special HH'?

dinosaur

echelon said: (i always wanted a Jaguar cos of the Sonic Youth connection).

sy use jazzmasters more often. they over use them..

echelon

echelon said: (i always wanted a Jaguar cos of the Sonic Youth connection).

Yeh i know - they need the extra scale length for all the weird tunings.

Over-use is right, you know they were carrying aroundlike 25-30 guitars, before all their gear got nicked in 1999.

Funny thing was they said at the time that they'd never be able to play certain songs again..cos they didnt work out what the strings were tuned to and they never wrote all the tunings down!

nah, really its Placebo i got the jag for..their first album has the best guitar sound EVER!

deanos_28

hi all,

I am in a 3 chord punkish type band and want to buy a new guitar. I am not a big fan of the look of any guitar on the market except for Jags/Jazzmasters and maybe SG's.

i'm looking at buying a jaguar, and seriously considering buying the HH.

Although i have read many reviews that the standard jag would not suit my style of music, i am still quite interesting in buying one. Would the Jaguar HH solve this problem?

I rarely play through the clean channel while gigging, so the distorted channel is probably the most important to me (although the clean is still of interest).

I suppose the type of sound i am going for is a "Ramones-ish" type thing.

Thanks for your help.

Also, is the HH model made in USA and Japan??

BanditGuitarist1

HH made in JAPAN

echelon

I've owned both a Jaguar HH and a regular japanese jag.

If you want trashy punk sounds, yeh regular jag will do it. Personally i found that the HH was really good, but sounded a bit too much like all my other humbucker equipped guitars (Jag-Stang especially) to be worth keeping.

just bare in mind that the stock japanese jaguar pickups are pretty poor, and will probably need changing.

Pedro

If you're playing distorted punky stuff the HH will do it fine, but then so will most guitars really! The good thing I've found about the HH is it's a good solid slab of guitar and you can bash it around and jump about with it and it stays in tune and sounds great. I'm sure a regular jag can be just as stable but probably not without some bridge modding (judging by what 90% of folks here say).

I don't know that you'd need to change the pickups - I replaced my bridge one but that was so I could get a smoother clean sound. The stock pups are quite sharp so good for punk I'd have thought. If you're going for "ramones-ish" I would stick my neck out and say the fuzz box is more important than what sort of guitar goes through it! 😆

Jags are very comfortable to play and have a good punk image tho, and the HH is pretty cheap for what it is

freedomchild1986

the fender jaguar hh is a jaguar with 2 humbuckers and is in standard tuning. the jaguar special hh, actually called the fender jaguar baritone special hh is tuned B, E, A, D, F sharp and B. really low in other words, as a guitar you can do anything with it, however, it appeals most to metal guitarists. i am buying the fender jaguar baritone special hh after x-mas.

want more specs on the 2 guitars?

check out these links on fender's website:

1. http://fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0259200306

2. http://fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0259300306

guitarplayerpr

Rick said:

shouldn't be too far off, with the same basic hardware.
just out of interest, does anybody know what pots the jag special has?

The same as a traditional Jaguar.

Mad-Mike

TBH, the JAguar Special HH is not the "chunk machine" people claim it is...

I owned one years ago, a 2008 in black.

It sounded more like a vintage Jaguar than my 1998 CIJ Jaguar does (granted the CIJ has Cool rails, but it sounds just like a 1963 I played years ago), without the Benefit of a Tremolo. The pickups are weak (only 7.16K in the bridge position - my Jazzmaster is hotter wound! and it has the old Jazzmaster pickups in it). It also had an odd squeakiness to it's attack sound that I did not like due to the TUne-O-Matic bridge and stoptail. I've never heard a Jaguar that anemic before or since that one.

My recommendation for a HH Jaguar is the Jaguar CP HH if you want to go the TOM route, it does not have the squeaky tone and the Humbuckers are as advertised (high output).

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