spaceghost said: which part? the EQ pedal or the Metal Zone tone?
from my experience calling a tone Woman Tone is not a good thing.
- Woman tone was NOT created by shredders. The name, the sound, and all is because of Eric Clapton, and while he used an SG and/or Les Paul to get that sound originally, I've also heard him pull off a pretty close sound on a Jazzmaster before, and even a Stratocaster. Woman Tone was only given that name because, as Eric Clapton called it, it was the sound of a "weeping woman".
- The shred sound can get close to the woman tone, while woman tone is sustained, the REAL woman tone comes from something like a Marshall Bluesbreaker or Plexi turned fully up, which still, is not as gainy as a Mesa Boogie or JCM2000 due to the nature of the preamp circutry. Using a Jaguar with a higher gain amp, such as a Plexi with a tube screamer, or Hot Rod Deville with some added compression, and with the bass full up, a decent amount of midrange, rhythm circuit, tone backed down on said circuit just a tad, and the treble somewhere about 6-8 depending upon the amp/modeler/whatevers your playing through, THAT is how that sound is.
- To get a shred sound out of a Jaguar, one must have a high gain amp or model in use. Shred would be lead circuit, strangle off, bridge pickup only, volume full, tone full, something like a Mesa or a Marshall JCM, with maybe a compressor to drive the input gain up a little bit, bass 8-10ish, midrange 5 or below depending upon how hot the pickups are and if you are going for an 80's (5) or 90's/2000's (0) shred sound. Whilst that might sound shrill on some Jags, on some it sounds thick, yet tight and bitey, my favorable guess is being Pre-CBS Jags, , Post CBS Jags between 1969-1975 (rough guess), A small window of Japanese Jags stock, pretty much anything with quarter pounders or SD hots, and some Lollar/Novak/"Booteek" set up pickups.
The pickups and general setup of the instrument make a MAJOR difference in tone. The higher the action, the thicker the sound. I find most Metal guitars, take away the high output humbuckers and put them with some vintage pickups, and they would be more brittle, tinny, and shrill than a Harmony with a 4.8K Single coil with a fridge magnet butted up right against the bridge, that is, until you swap the pots to 250K, then they loose their top end, giving a flat, one-dimensional sound, mostly due to the high bridge mass (floyd rose), heavy weight body wood (maple in some cases even), thick paint and custom graphics, many things that dampen the counter vibrations that warm up the sound.
My final point, after all this crazy techno-babble, is that Woman tone is NOT the Metal tone.
As for the name, I'm not the one that named it, I only use that term because that's what it's called by guitarists in general. I could call it Loverboy tone, but that would sound really gay/strange, and nobody would know that I was referring to the sound used on "Always On My Mind" either, I could call it "You Can't Hold On Too Long" tone (Elliot Easton uses that kind of sound in that song), but few would know what the heck I was talking about, hencefourth, why I use that term. I don't like the idea of crying women either, but if that's what whoever coined the term wants to call that sound, then more power to em I say.
