Song Trial

brandonwinmill

If no one minds i'm thinking of taking what we have and moving the song into a slightly different direction. I think i can get a faith no more epic thing out of this. I can write more nursery rhyme lyrics with a similar cadence to epic. I think the way you made the cello sound will work perfectly and i may bring it in earlier. Did you want me to change the drums? I think i'm going to use mutes as a main rhythm part to get the vocals and then we can add chords over the mutes once we have vocals. I think we can keep what we have and just add to it and i'll space it out better. I wonder if i can get an under produced indie sound intentionally by over producing it? I think if i run certain filters over it i can make it sound like an old record or a "garage recording". I'm going to keep experimenting.

feedbackismyfriend

brandonwinmill said:
If no one minds i'm thinking of taking what we have and moving the song into a slightly different direction. I think i can get a faith no more epic thing out of this. I can write more nursery rhyme lyrics with a similar cadence to epic. I think the way you made the cello sound will work perfectly and i may bring it in earlier. Did you want me to change the drums? I think i'm going to use mutes as a main rhythm part to get the vocals and then we can add chords over the mutes once we have vocals. I think we can keep what we have and just add to it and i'll space it out better. I wonder if i can get an under produced indie sound intentionally by over producing it? I think if i run certain filters over it i can make it sound like an old record or a "garage recording". I'm going to keep experimenting.

I think it might be good to see if we can work with what we've got, and if it doesn't work we'll go from there

brandonwinmill

feedbackismyfriend said:
I think it might be good to see if we can work with what we've got, and if it doesn't work we'll go from there

ok, i'm just not sure if it will compliment lyrics in the current state. I can post some ideas for lyrics i jotted down. They aren't complete by far, it's a few different cadences and i will change them as needed. This is not a finished product but in remembering this is a collab i think everyone should be able to see the process unfold. I haven't proofread it yet and i haven't made sure that they aren't too similar to someone else's. I find it easier to put music out there than lyrics because i never claimed music to be my strong point. Take it easy on me. This is just thoughts it doesn't mean anything yet and it isn't about a certain or group of people. I have intentionally left out parts again that i haven't worded out yet. I am also curious to see if anyone finishes the verses with the same thoughts i was going to finish them. I have changed them over and over the last few days trying to find a melody. I started to stress letters by adding multiple letters to allow for some sort of harmony. It's a very rough draft. Some of it was going to be spoken some sang and some shouted. I was going to put in parenthesis how to translate that part but i'd rather see how it happens. So if you think it should be spoken changed or scratched just do so. I was thinking lifeless or faceless for a title but it is very incomplete at this part.

This Lifeee -less

This Lifeeee -is less

I see money, it's floating in the water

sacrifice me, and make me a martyr

You can't hurt her, i made her smarter

I will never follow you into this slaughter

see their facess as you

treat their casess now it's time to

subtract their races i have become

the face of the faceless

your Opium contagious our hatred rages

i have become the face of the faceless

I see it shineing it's covered in their blood

Now hurry find the hole and pump it full of mud

I see it shineing it's covered in their blood

Now hurry find the hole and pump it full of mud

we are fueled by your morphine and powder

i won't forgive you, i gave them their power

We get revenge as the hand strikes the hour

hide from us, your heartbeat's louder

Stand up behind us, they were not guilty

Keep your change Your money's filthy

I will protect them and They will free me

You won't erase me turn around and Face me

You can't place me kill me i'm crazy

Please don't pray for me god can't save me

Please don't pray for me a needle of blasphmy

Rise up and rage for me they hurt me vehemtly

Make them pay for what they will do to me

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Thats what i have so far. I'm not sure if you know about pumping mud but that's what they do in the oilfield to try and stop leaks and to fill the holes. Also money in the water was the first thought i had and i have been wanting to use that line. It hit me leaving new orleans a few months ago on a bridge(terrified of heights). i was thinking all that money in oil is just floating out there. Somehow it was like the nevermind album cover made sense to me all there years later. It got personal i guess. I felt like we were all becoming that baby and the water got literal. I should have been like whoa the environment and the wildlife but nope. I was thinking billions a day, wow. I have become that baby. It needs work but their are a few usable sentences in there.

SonicMayhem

if you want to give it an old school feel I have some tape emulators I can run the final mix through to give it that feel or I could run it through ivinyl on a higher fidelity than I used on the cello to give it a little overall dirt.

brandonwinmill

SonicMayhem said:
if you want to give it an old school feel I have some tape emulators I can run the final mix through to give it that feel or I could run it through ivinyl on a higher fidelity than I used on the cello to give it a little overall dirt.

Exactly. Yes!

SonicMayhem

Let me know when you have a mix done.

brandonwinmill

Vocals are killer! Thank you Glenn. That was amazing that you did that with what you had to work with. That is why i wanted you to do this. I think i'm addicted to passion. You gave me a fix that lasted the entire weekend. I survive through emotion. Thanks again.

SonicMayhem

Can I get a copy of it?

feedbackismyfriend

SonicMayhem said:
Can I get a copy of it?

I was expecting Brandon to post a vid like he has been doing, but just shoot me a message with ur email and I'll send it...... I'll also prolly make a vid and post it here if Brandon never does, just haven't gotten round to it.

brandonwinmill

I can, i didn't know if you wanted me to do it or if you were going to. My bad. I'll do it right now.

brandonwinmill

Random pics again. The one of me holding a pistol was not meant to be macho, it's just grabbing pics from hard drive.

I want to start another one. If you can listen to the demo i made in the irig thread there may be something usable there. I would like to try and come more out of our comfort zone. Maybe play something happy musically with glenn screaming the lyrics. I was listening to the pixies this am and i like how the music can be not so heavy and francis will start screaming over it. Loud quiet loud. Keeping the music clean would be nerve racking for me. I play so sloppy i have to use effects to cover the imperfections. I'm thinking of leaving some of them there and let it be raw.

I enjoyed it. If you are down for another i am on board. Thanks guys. Heres the version with the lyrics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg6k1QxvDgU

SonicMayhem

when I get a copy I'll try using some of the effects in pro tools to give it a little warmth and what not.

brandonwinmill

SonicMayhem said:
when I get a copy I'll try using some of the effects in pro tools to give it a little warmth and what not.

Coming at you in mp3.

brandonwinmill

I was talking about son house in another thread and i have an idea. He has a monologue where he is talking about the blues and it is both humorous and haunting. I have always wanted to put music to it. I wanted to see if i, or us, could produce something authentic to attach to that old recording. I have some slide licks and i have a friend with a tele b-bender that would fit perfect. I was thinking both acoustic and electric blues to accompany his words. The only problem is i would never want to offend his legacy. The word authentic is important in this case and i'm afraid i would never like anything i've done enough to accomplish this. I would like to record me or someone tapping there feet or slapping the body of an acoustic as beat just as they did back then. I would also like to add a melody of people humming or moaning or something you would have heard in a plantation field or a prison chain gang, with the sounds of a dragging chain or something. I have been so touched by his music, death letter blues and john the revelator are all time favorites but i don't want to disrespect him. I know i am not skilled enough to play something amazing, but i think i have enough passion and pain and well, blues, to pay homage. Let me know what ya'll think or maybe we should try something different. Thanks.

feedbackismyfriend

brandonwinmill said:
I was talking about son house in another thread and i have an idea. He has a monologue where he is talking about the blues and it is both humorous and haunting. I have always wanted to put music to it. I wanted to see if i, or us, could produce something authentic to attach to that old recording. I have some slide licks and i have a friend with a tele b-bender that would fit perfect. I was thinking both acoustic and electric blues to accompany his words. The only problem is i would never want to offend his legacy. The word authentic is important in this case and i'm afraid i would never like anything i've done enough to accomplish this. I would like to record me or someone tapping there feet or slapping the body of an acoustic as beat just as they did back then. I would also like to add a melody of people humming or moaning or something you would have heard in a plantation field or a prison chain gang, with the sounds of a dragging chain or something. I have been so touched by his music, death letter blues and john the revelator are all time favorites but i don't want to disrespect him. I know i am not skilled enough to play something amazing, but i think i have enough passion and pain and well, blues, to pay homage. Let me know what ya'll think or maybe we should try something different. Thanks.

love son house

brandonwinmill

Me too but i don't think i have the skills in my toolbox to do it right alone. I'm full of anger and pain and terrible memories of how life used to be, but i don't know how it will translate. I have not forgotten worse times and i can call on those memories to attach music to images in my mind that won't go away no matter how happy or sad or high i am. The lows are really low. I'm sure all of us share these personality deformations. Music is a way for me to know i'm not the only insane person in the world. No offense but you guys help me understand that as well, being your all #### nuts also. ha ha. A musician or an artist who isn't a little coo coo is useless in my world. Sane people make me feel even more #### crazy. You know how they have alcoholics or addicts who are sober but still addicted?`I am that guy plus i have my personality disorders in check but they still exist. I'm thinking one day it's all going to come undone, but until then, music is my coping mechanism.

Let's write another song so i stop wasting your time with #### you don't care about.

SonicMayhem

I'll mess with the track tomorrow sounds good. I sent you a 30 sec clip of an idea for a song.

brandonwinmill

SonicMayhem said:
I'll mess with the track tomorrow sounds good. I sent you a 30 sec clip of an idea for a song.

Ok we doing this one. I have almost the identical riff already recorded. I was working on mimicking a vocal melody and using the length of the words to practice holding a note for a certain amount of time. I have been trying to play the note perfectly and then enjoy it before i move on. I was playing scales fast and they got boring. I wanted to do more gilmour type stuff so i used words to space it out. The words i was using was

don't look back don't look back don't look back noowww. Don't look back don't look back don't look back chiiillddd. We don't need those lyrics, i'm just telling you how weird it is that when i heard it this morning i told my wife to come listen and she said oh you re-did that song we were working on. I said nope but now we are! This is a go, it was meant to be, let's do it.

SonicMayhem

That clip i sent is at90 bpm

brandonwinmill

I'm almost ready. I love that lick. We going to have a hit!

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