I ended up buying a TC Electronics Mojomojo pedal. A different animal than the pedals I was asking about for sure, more of an overdrive, but my local GC has them on Clearance for $50 and I couldn't resist. I've been kind of BOSS fan for a quite a while but then I recently picked up a TC Electronics Nova Delay, which I've really been impressed with. I'm liking TC Electronics even more now. The Mojomojo is just great, fat, warm, articulate, responsive to picking dynamics and volume pot. A week later (yesterday), I picked up a used TC Electronics Rottweiler distortion pedal from GC. This one is clearly for thrash and extreme metal, it has ridiculous amounts of gain...and is super noisy- unusable with single coil pickups- but, gain-wise, cleans up nicely (in a clear and usable way) with lowering the guitar volume pot even better than the Mojomojo. For the gluttonous amount of gain, it still remains clear and articulate. I may eventually pick up a TC Dark Matter, which seems to be their middle part of the Mojo-DarkMatter-Rottweiler trilogy.